Hi, I just want to install kahelos which was released few days ago. But at Grub install after selecting no software raid disk, the whole machine gets frozen.
This is not the first time I try a linux distribution ( I used Archlinux few times), but never had such problem ever. I have MSI Wind Nettop 120 XP .
Grub problems
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Posted 2 months ago #
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htraki:
Hi.. A couple of questions:
a. is the system totally frozen or just seems to have hung? please try opening another virtual terminal, maybe we can try something from there...
b. how big is your /boot partition?
Posted 2 months ago # -
a. is the system totally frozen or just seems to have hung? please try opening another virtual terminal, maybe we can try something from there...
Maybe it is just a hung, because I can reboot with Ctrl+Alt+Del (but can not do anything else), and its getting stuck at umounting devices when rebboting.
b. how big is your /boot partition?
It was 300M, but I tried to do same thing without any separate /boot partition ( formatted / as ext3). No change, still getting hung at grub install.
Posted 2 months ago # -
I have the same problem, trying to dual boot with Win XP via uNetbootin/USB. I can format my partitions (creating primary partitions /dev/sda1 as ext4 and /dev/dsa2 as swap, I'm not creating seperate partitions for home, root, boot, etc), the packages install to sda1, I make it through configuration, my menu.lst looks fine (I just need to uncomment the Windows bootloader), it shows the right root for Kahel (hd0), I write it out, it shows 57 lines written, I exit, chose location for Grub as sda1, No to raid device, the system hangs. I can Ctrl+Alt+F2 to drop to shell, but if I reboot and run the installer but skip to the steps for Grub it returns "Can't find /boot/grub/menu.lst, are you sure Grub is installed?"
Frustrating, as I have the feeling I'm very close. Checking the new partition with Parted Magik shows that data has been written to the new partition, so it looks like it's just Grub getting me hung up. BTW, I've tried booting the partition using Super Grub Disc but it's not working.
Posted 2 months ago # -
^Sorry, the new partitions are sda2 and sda3, of course.
Posted 2 months ago # -
Well, I was able to get Grub going by running the installer, dropping to shell and entering "grub", "root (hd0,1)", "setup (hd0)", and rebooting. Then I get the Kahel Grub screen, but if I choose either the normal or safe mode version the system starts to boot but my monitor shuts off within a few seconds. Windows boots fine from there.
Posted 2 months ago # -
my system froze too after selecting no software raid disk. Fortunatley I had enough free space on my hard disk for another linux distribution. I installed Fedora 12 with grub and can boot both Linux systems and windows (after installing Fedora, I just had to add the entry for Kahel OS in the menu.lst file of fedora). Kahel OS boots up really fast now.
I used following partitions for Kahel OS; sda6 as boot 110 MB (ext3 filesystem), sda7 as root (ext4), sda8 home (BTRFS), sda9 swap about 2GB
Posted 2 months ago # -
i tried ext3 and ext 4 for my 256 mb boot partition ..and it casued them both to hang..
howver , when i selected ext2 for my boot partition , all when well and smooth..wierdPosted 2 months ago # -
correct :-) i forgot to mention that i always use ext2 for /boot, /tmp and root since it really doesn't make sense to journalize static portions of the fs. i use journaling fs on home and var only. this comes from server discipline/paradigm.
also i've research on this matter, but it seem that grub ext3/4 support isn't that thoroughly stable.
Posted 2 months ago # -
After I read your posts, I decided to give a second chance to kahelos, and tried to install it again.
Well folks, I am writing from kahelos :))) . Here is the recipe:/boot partition has to be ext2 formatted and I gave 500M size. Everything else can be formatted to any type of partition (I made / to ext4).
I can not wait till the guys make their own repository to work.
Posted 2 months ago # -
I'm currently investigating this issue, and there are currently 3 solutions.
1. increase the size of /boot partition. (256MB or higher)
2. bind /mnt/boot with actual installer /boot then install grub. Here's how to do the 2nd solution.
# run through the installer, then when installing grub, don't select anything on the raid 'yes or no' dialog, press 'ctrl-alt-f2', login as 'root' then type
$ mkdir /boot
$ mount -o bind /mnt/boot /boot
$ /sbin/grub-install --no-floppy --recheck --grub-shell=/mnt/sbin/grub --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda #assuming /dev/sda is where to install grub. (no partition number means install to MBR)
$ umount /boot # then unmount the binded /boot3. When grub-install hangs, kill grub-install then perform the 2nd solution.
# press 'ctrl-alt-f2', login as 'root' then type
$ kill $(ps aux | grep -i grub-install | awk '{ print $2 }');
$ ## perform the second solution here.. ##then if everything goes fine, just type 'reboot' to reboot.
Happy New Year everyone!
Posted 2 months ago # -
htraki:
glad it finally worked out for you. aside from fewer boot problems on sticking to ext2 on static fs portions, you also gain read speed advantages. ext2 is already one of the old, thoroughly tested and stable technology. a lot of benchmarks from phoronix confirm this.
happy new year kaheling everyone.. :-)
Posted 2 months ago # -
Just wanted to post that I tried solution 2 and it still didn't work. I got the message "Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time..." After an hour it still hadn't done anything, no indication of activity on the hard drive or usb drive, so I powered down.
Posted 2 months ago # -
Corrections, it should be
/sbin/grub-install --no-floppy --recheck --grub-shell=/mnt/sbin/grub --root-directory=/boot /dev/sda
Posted 2 months ago # -
@joelbryan, thank you very much for posting this correction. As I have Ubuntu Karmic set up perfectly right now and it works for me, I'm going to wait till till fplolz releases his Live CD alpha to see if my wireless adapter works. But if Karmic messes up on me, I won't hesitate to try it!
Thanks again for posting. I'm still checking these forums daily. Please let me know if I can help with testing or English translations by posting here.
Posted 2 months ago # -
Corrections, it should be
/sbin/grub-install --no-floppy --recheck --grub-shell=/mnt/sbin/grub --root-directory=/boot /dev/sdaThis is why I can't be a RHCT because of these so called Command Line code or whatever you say. These are the things that I love the most when it comes to typing the command in Linux.
Posted 2 months ago # -
Thanks, guys, for this thread. As always, I install my Linux servers 'the Ubuntu/CentOS way' without much hitches. I've encountered this problem last night and almost gave up on Kahel for a server box. Tried again this morning and got the same frozen state issue at grub install step, then I thought of logging in to check the forum.
Posted 1 month ago # -
Congratulations to all the developers of the Kahel OS! I am always proud of Filipinos who excel in their own turfs and careers. With the emergence of a lot of Linux Distros, i always had the question in my mind if Filipino ITs were contributors to those many distros. The Kahel OS is the answer.
I downloaded the Kahel OS 64 bit ISO files yesterday. Burned the ISo files in a dvd. I was so excited to try it in my spare hardisk, a blank but formatted Maxtor with 320gb of space.
Pardon my word because I dont know what could be a lesser word for disappoinment or disappointed, but yes I was kind of disappointed to find out the ISO files I burned is'nt in a LIVE CD format. It had been my habit to try all linux distros first as live cd/dvd before I decide to install.
But really wanting to try it out, I clicked on the install. Here my disappointment became bigger. Installing the Kahel OS is like going back several years ago in my attempts to install Red Hat Linux and the Mandrake, with all those typings and clickings in the DOS mode.
I had tried the installing and using Ubuntu, from ver.7, ver.8, and now the latest version 9.10. My other drive in the same desktop is with Linux MInt 8. I also tried installing several other distros like Open Suse, Mandriva, Fedora, Linux Vixta, GOS,PC Linux OS,Knoppix,and even the OpenSolaris.
Installing those OSes was so easy, I could say it was a breeze installing them. The GRUB menu installation installed by itself with their own installers.
I am not a computer software expert, but I am an enthusiast. I dont want to be troubled with installation technicalities but I want to try using the Kahel OS.
So I hope with your "Open To Change" slogan, you will consider my suggestion to make the installation of the Kahel OS as easy as ABC.
Thank you very much and Kudos to all of you.Posted 1 week ago #
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