http://forum.kahelos.org/topic/hal-less-remove-hal Open for Change en-US Thu, 29 Jul 2010 20:47:25 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.1 q http://forum.kahelos.org/search.php http://forum.kahelos.org/topic/hal-less-remove-hal#post-748 Tue, 19 Jan 2010 23:11:52 +0000 chris_debian 748@http://forum.kahelos.org/ <p>Should be interesting to see how things develop. </p> http://forum.kahelos.org/topic/hal-less-remove-hal#post-747 Tue, 19 Jan 2010 22:36:55 +0000 fplolz 747@http://forum.kahelos.org/ <p>hm.. i find Hal rather important for Linux if the users want a smooth experience..( for now ..)</p> <p>ubuntu has a halsectomy on the depreciation of hal ..lol<br /> <a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Halsectomy" rel="nofollow">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Halsectomy</a></p> <p>seems like most of the hal's jobs are being transfered to devicekit and udev ..</p> <p>though , applications that has been ported/ modified to work without hal are just the more commonly used ones...( or those that ubuntu are using...lol )</p> <p>Currently , as of now , a large chunk of the linux apps depend heavily on hal ...<br /> it might be a while more before we see any feasible changes in the linux system /software that would allow us to use Linux without hal </p> http://forum.kahelos.org/topic/hal-less-remove-hal#post-746 Tue, 19 Jan 2010 19:09:06 +0000 chris_debian 746@http://forum.kahelos.org/ <p>Well done for trying. Discussion on the 'net suggests that Hal is not great and people seem to be welcoming this shift, so i guess it is just a matter of time before Hal is made redundant.</p> <p>Chris. </p> http://forum.kahelos.org/topic/hal-less-remove-hal#post-744 Tue, 19 Jan 2010 18:56:23 +0000 fplolz 744@http://forum.kahelos.org/ <p>hm.. ic ic :)</p> <p>i have been testing the hal-less idea with KCE ..:)<br /> So far using the xorg-server-udev package from aur allowed me to boot in to GUI ..</p> <p>However , stuff like PCmanFM requires hal...<br /> Switched to emelfm2 for a file manager that doesnt need hal..lol..<br /> hm....though.. i feel rather uncomfortable without hal ..lol </p> http://forum.kahelos.org/topic/hal-less-remove-hal#post-739 Mon, 18 Jan 2010 20:44:24 +0000 chris_debian 739@http://forum.kahelos.org/ <p>Hi, fplolz!</p> <p>I'm not sure of the specifics of hal or the suggested alternatives. As you know, the UNIX &gt; GNU/Linux philosophy is to use many small tools that are good at doing individual jobs and enable them to pass information easily between present and future applications.</p> <p>(Cathedral and the Bazaar: </p> <p><a href="http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/cathedral-bazaar/cathedral-bazaar/" rel="nofollow">http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/cathedral-bazaar/cathedral-bazaar/</a> ) </p> <p>If 'dbus , udev , devicekit-power and devicekit-disks' are all able to do small jobs well, then I can't see any reason why it couldn't potentially improve the user's experience.</p> <p>Hope this adds something to the discussion.</p> <p>Chris. </p> http://forum.kahelos.org/topic/hal-less-remove-hal#post-738 Mon, 18 Jan 2010 17:16:28 +0000 fplolz 738@http://forum.kahelos.org/ <p>Hm...as of a few days ago...it was announced that ubuntu 10.04 was going to remvoe hal</p> <p>i was wondering how hardware was going to be detected...<br /> Heard that they would be using dbus , udev , devicekit-power and devicekit-disks..</p> <p>but i wonder if this is it enough to ensure a smooth user expirience...</p> <p>Any one has any ideas / thoughts about this? :o </p>